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CentOS5 on P35/ICH9 based motherboards?
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Hi,

Anyone got any experience of installing CentOS 5 on an Intel based P35 / ICH9 motherboard?

Any pointers for installing, and insights on what's supported out of the box.

I've googled quite a bit, but haven't really found much due to the relative newness of the above chipset/motherboards.

Thanks

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  •  mkosewski
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Re: CentOS5 on P35/ICH9 based motherboards?
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Check this thread: http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9667&start=0#forumpost32425
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  •  Metsger
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Intel DP35DP works fine.
Sata conroller must be setted in ahci mode (BIOS).
If you want install from ide-cdrom you must pass all-ide-generic to linux-kernel.

All motherboards with ICH8R/ICH9R works fine with ahci-driver and ncq.
Posted on: 2007/9/4 14:11
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  •  toracat
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Is my understanding correct that this is true with ICH9R but NOT ICH9 ?
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Yes, becaus ICH9/8 don't support ahci. ICH9 extremly new, ICH8 works fine at my home workstation(not centos). ICH8 maybe supported by centos-5 but I don't try it with centos.
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  •  NedSlider
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Just a quick update for those interested...

I've had good success with a Gigabyte P35-DS4 (ICH9R) board. I installed from an IDE DVD connected to the IDE controller on the JMicron chipset (set to IDE mode in the BIOS). My SATA II HD was connected to the Intel controller and set to AHCI mode in the BIOS. Everything went smoothly and no parameters needed to be passed to the kernel at boot time. This was a standard x86-64 install from DVD media.

I haven't played with the onboard NIC or sound yet, I just popped in a pci nic for the install, but I'll play with these when I get some time.

I have played with lm_sensors though, which aren't supported by CentOS 5 out of the box. I upgraded lm_sensors to 2.10.3 from the Fedora repo (built from the FC source rpm) and built my own vanilla 2.6.22.6 kernel. There's a nice coretemp sensor in the latest kernel that gives temps for all 2 or 4 cores on dual/quad core CPUs and it's accurate too, reading from the on chip diode. Fan speeds look OK on my setup, but voltages are all incorrect.

That's about as far as I've got so far.
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Re: CentOS5 on P35/ICH9 based motherboards?
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Quote:

Metsger wrote:
Intel DP35DP works fine.
Sata conroller must be setted in ahci mode (BIOS).
If you want install from ide-cdrom you must pass all-ide-generic to linux-kernel.

All motherboards with ICH8R/ICH9R works fine with ahci-driver and ncq.


Hi there,

I have an Intel DP35DP motherboard with the SATA controller set in AHCI mode and an ide-cdrom/dvd-rom and I cannot get the Centos 5 installer to detect the installation media.

I have booted the installer with: linux all-ide-generic but it doesn't make a difference.

Am I doing something obviously wrong?

Thanks in advance.
Posted on: 2007/9/12 15:55
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  •  alexsaavedra
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Hello,

Exact same situation here. I'm trying to install i386 CentOS 5 from DVD on DP35DP/Pentium Core 2 Duo/2 SATA HDDs. Before files are copied I get stuck on the "Installation Method" screen, asking: "What type of media contains the packages to be installed? (Local CDROM, Hard drive, ...)". What I have is a plain IDE DVD-RW. I have also tried "linux all-ide-generic" kernel parameter with no success. I have updated BIOS (support.intel.com), tried all available BIOS drive settings (SATA / AHCI / IDE). and still can't get rid of the "Installation Method" screen. Any suggestions?
Posted on: 2007/9/12 19:33
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  •  NedSlider
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Re: CentOS5 on P35/ICH9 based motherboards?
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I'm confused - I just looked at Intel's specs for that motherboard, and they seem to indicate the PATA interface is provided by the ICH9R chipset, or at least don't indicate otherwise??

I thought ICH9R didn't support PATA hence why most motherboard manufacturers use a 3rd party chip such as the popular JMicron controller to provide PATA.

Can anyone clarify what chipset is providing the PATA interface on these boards - my guess is that it's not supported (no driver) by CentOS at present hence why once booted CentOS fails to recognize the drive/media.

As a dirty workaround, maybe you could boot from CD/DVD with askmethod and perform a HD install:

http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Installation_Guide-en-US/s1-installmethod.html

http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Installation_Guide-en-US/s1-begininstall-hd-x86.html

This was my alternate strategy if I had problems installing from DVD media. I believe you just need to create a primary FAT32 or EXT2 partition and copy the ISO file(s) to that partition. Presumably once the installation is complete you can then delete the ISO file(s) and use the partition space as you see fit.
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PATA is definitely provided by ICH9R, according to the Intel technical specification document found here.

Thanks for suggesting the alternate method of installation, I'll give that a go with a spare drive.
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Quote:

nvdm wrote:
PATA is definitely provided by ICH9R, according to the Intel technical specification document found here.

Thanks for suggesting the alternate method of installation, I'll give that a go with a spare drive.


Sorry I couldn't be of more help. My PATA interface is provided by a separate JMicron controller and it worked fine for me - not much consolation for you. If you tried with all the different BIOS settings then there's not much you can do (although you really want the controller in AHCI mode for your HDs anyway). The only other thing I can think to suggest is maybe trying a SATA optical drive.

I wonder if your PATA optical drive will be correctly detected and work once you get CentOS installed? If you don't need an optical drive on the system then it's not an issue, but if you do and it doesn't work, then a SATA optical drive might be a solution as they're very cheap now.
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Hello again,

Well, I had a hard time trying to configure CentOS with this Intel DP35DP motherboard. So I looked for other distributions, and first installed Ubuntu Desktop 7.04. Everything went smooth except for the built-in 10/100/1000 NIC, which couldn't be recognized. I tried a few manual patches, then I found a preview of the next Ubuntu Server 7.10, code named Gutsy Gibbon (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/gutsy-server-i386.iso).
From there, everything on wheels, CD recognized without a problem, DHCP assigned on the fly, RAID1 partitioning of my 2 hard drives. Now my file server is up and running!

Bye,

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  •  Metsger
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Sorry, all-generic-ide (not all-ide-generic)
ICH8 and higher don't have pata conroller. On Intel DP35DP pata supported throught marvell controller.
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Quote:

alexsaavedra wrote:
Everything went smooth except for the built-in 10/100/1000 NIC, which couldn't be recognized.

To support Intel Ethernet 1000 in ICH9 you need latest version of e1000 kernel module (you can fint it at sourceforge).
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Metsger wrote:
Sorry, all-generic-ide (not all-ide-generic)
ICH8 and higher don't have pata conroller. On Intel DP35DP pata supported throught marvell controller.


That's what I thought - PATA, if present, is provided by a 3rd party controller chip.
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Hi,

I have an DG965WH with an IDE drive and a S-ATA drive. I have installed CentOS in the IDE drive by using the all-generic-ide for kernel and all went smoth and a little problems installing the video drivers because I did not noticed that was a xen kernel what it was using.
In the S-ATA drive I have installed Windows XP.
The way I installed the S-ATA drive was by selecting the IDE interface in the Bios setup and not problem at all but then I disconected de S-ATA and had just the IDE conected for a clean installation of CentOS without bothering by the dual boot.
Now that I conected the S-ATA drive and booting with CentOS I just see in my monitor:

   Booting 'CentOS (2.6.18-8.e15)'
root (hd0,0)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-8.e15 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 all-generic-ide rhgb quiet
   [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1e0, size=0x1ad034]
initrd 7initrd-26.18-8.e15.img
   [Linux-initrd @ 0x37db000, 0x23faa9 bytes]

PCI: BIOS Bug: MCFG area at f0000000 is not E820-reserved
PCI: Not using MMCONFIG.
PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:20000@90000000 for 0000:01:00.0
ACPI: Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x3
ACPI: Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x4
Red Hat nash version 5.1.19.6 starting
irq 193: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpll" option)
handlers:
[<c0557a7e>] (ide_intr+0x0/0x19)
Disabling IRQ #193


after a long time added the line

  Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while...


after another long time

 Found volume group "VolGroup00" using metadata type lvm2

And freezes...

But if I restart the PC, change the mode to RAID in the Bios setup it works just fine but because I have Windows XP already installed with the IDE mode I cannot boot, a big blue screen flashes restarting the PC.

I used Feisty before installing the CentOS and just installed so easy without the all-generic-ide parameter, easy way to install the video driver and even was just connecting again the S-ATA to have detected and mounted de drives in Ubuntu but I prefer CentOS rather than Ubuntu because for a server is more eficient thought.
I really want to know if there is a way to use the CentOS in that way because I do not want to reinstall Windows in RAID mode because of all the programs and configurations in there that will take arround 6 hours of my time.

Thanks for your time by reading this do not well redacted post

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Posted on: 2007/9/20 19:05
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  •  NedSlider
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But if I restart the PC, change the mode to RAID in the Bios setup it works just fine but because I have Windows XP already installed with the IDE mode I cannot boot, a big blue screen flashes restarting the PC.


The problem here is that Windows natively supports the IDE mode whereas Linux natively supports the RAID (AHCI) mode through it's AHCI driver. One way around this problem is to install Windows first in RAID (AHCI) mode using the F6 at boot to load the Intel driver. Then install CentOS and everything is fine. But that doesn't help you as you've already installed Windows in IDE mode.

When you switch the BIOS into RAID (AHCI) mode and attempt to boot Windows, it blue screens because it doesn't have the correct driver installed to use the disk in that mode. However, there is a fix - you can install the Intel driver from within IDE mode and then switch the setting in the BIOS. See this thread:

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=444831

You may need to hack the reg file a little for your chipset (hint - look in the inf file), but this method worked fine for me
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NedSlider wrote:
Quote:

But if I restart the PC, change the mode to RAID in the Bios setup it works just fine but because I have Windows XP already installed with the IDE mode I cannot boot, a big blue screen flashes restarting the PC.


The problem here is that Windows natively supports the IDE mode whereas Linux natively supports the RAID (AHCI) mode through it's AHCI driver. One way around this problem is to install Windows first in RAID (AHCI) mode using the F6 at boot to load the Intel driver. Then install CentOS and everything is fine. But that doesn't help you as you've already installed Windows in IDE mode.

When you switch the BIOS into RAID (AHCI) mode and attempt to boot Windows, it blue screens because it doesn't have the correct driver installed to use the disk in that mode. However, there is a fix - you can install the Intel driver from within IDE mode and then switch the setting in the BIOS. See this thread:

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=444831

You may need to hack the reg file a little for your chipset (hint - look in the inf file), but this method worked fine for me


I am really grateful to you, that is what I needed.
Besides on searching for a way to use the AHCI on Windows I was searching for a way to use the IDE on Linux just because in Ubuntu Feisty worked for me the first time.

Thanks again.
Posted on: 2007/9/21 17:47
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  •  NedSlider
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elder wrote:

I am really grateful to you, that is what I needed.
Besides on searching for a way to use the AHCI on Windows I was searching for a way to use the IDE on Linux just because in Ubuntu Feisty worked for me the first time.

Thanks again.


Have you tried it and did it work (I hope so), as noted in that thread, some users had some problems getting it to work on other motherboards.

Anyway, you're more than welcome - hope you enjoy CentOS and the forums
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quick datapoint for intel dg33tl (g33+ich9r).
had to use either acpi=off or pci=nommconf to get it to boot, acpi=off isn't a very good fix since it kills smp though.
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