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  •  jgalt123
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Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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I've downloaded and installed the drivers from ati. The Catalyst Control Center shows the card name but is using Mesa for opengl instead of the card. If I choose the kernel option during the ati setup it locks up the machine

Centos display properties just shows unknown for the video card

Running ati's flx_gears crashes with a segmentation fault.

Any ideas on what to look for to get the drivers working properly to use the ati hardware for opengl

Thx
Posted on: 2009/1/24 4:41
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  •  AlanBartlett
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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I'm sorry but you are one of a number of people who have had problems after loading a proprietary, closed source, video driver from ATI.

All I can advise you to do is to ask ATI for support.
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Posted on: 2009/1/24 13:17
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  •  jgalt123
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Thanks Alan

I checked with ATI before coming here and they declined to do anything stating that linux drivers are provided as is and then referred me to a few general linux sites.

I was hoping somebody here might have found a solution.
Posted on: 2009/1/26 22:37
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  •  AlanBartlett
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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I checked with ATI before coming here and they declined to do anything stating that linux drivers are provided as is

Phooey to ATI, their video controllers, their closed-source drivers and their non-existent support . . . Clearly, their products are aimed at windoze users.

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I was hoping somebody here might have found a solution.


It just might be to your advantage to make contact with my_linux -- http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=18323&start=0#threadtop
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  •  my_linux
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Hi jgalt123,

can you advise exactly how you compiled the driver for CentOS 5.2? Also are you using x86 or x86_64 of CentOS?

It is normal for the CentOS / Red Hat / Fedora display programs to show fglrx as unknown. The same goes for Nvidia's non-free drivers too from my experience.

Thanks

[Edit] Can you also advise what fglrxinfo shows? This should be in /usr/bin if I remember right.
Posted on: 2009/1/27 15:38
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  •  jgalt123
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Initially I let the OS decide on the video driver and of course the xserver wouldn't start.

I haven't tried compiling my own yet, but I downloaded the current and 1 downlevel set from ATI. That at least got the Xserver up and running.

I'm running x86_64 of CentOS and the output of fglrxinfo is

display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)

I have an Nvideo Quadra 7600 I might try but it seems like there may be issues with that as well.
Posted on: 2009/1/27 22:32
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  •  my_linux
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Ok but please include the exact steps used as the driver does not appeared to have installed / configured properly. If you provide the steps we may be able to reverse the process or simply try from a clean install? But I will need to know which...

I can confirm I have version 8.12 installed and it is running just fine installed on a clean fully up to date CentOS 5.2 x86_64 install after installing a few extra packages that help with the ATI progs and compile the kernel mod.

8.12 is also compatible with the card you have:

Release notes:
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_812_linux.pdf

Driver download:
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html

Please go to /etc/X11 and copy the contents of your xorg.conf file in your next post this will confirm which driver is set to be used.

PS there is no point changing cards mid way better to resolve this in my opinion.
Posted on: 2009/1/27 23:40
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  •  jgalt123
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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From a terminal window at the console run ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run. It still seems to install the 8.543 drivers
Follow the prompts, choose custom
If kernel is enabled, the system locks up on post processing the kernel module. In text-mode it stops at about 83%, looks like a memory dump and then locks up the machine. I have the kernel headers installed so I''m not sure what the problem is or how to proceed at this point

If I disable the kernel selection, the script completes and the Xserver is functional at least for 2d.

Here's the xorg.conf file
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "single head configuration"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "fglrx"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

I would prefer to resolve things with this card, but I have opengl tests to conduct and expediency may win out until I have time to get the ati card working
Posted on: 2009/1/28 16:09
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  •  jgalt123
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Further to this

I installed the Nvidia Quadro card and installed the proprietary drivers. I was warned that it wouldn't work with a Xen kernel which I hadn't realized would be a problem. I then used a regular kernel, they compiled and everything looked good so I thought I'd throw the ati card back in.

This time the kernel module compiled. I rebooted and had the regular start up screen but just before I got the login screen the xserver went black. I was still able to connect remotely. Subsequent reboots would lock up the machine
Posted on: 2009/1/28 18:40
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  •  my_linux
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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OK from the info provided it looks as though you did not create an RPM from the ATI driver but simply used the installer from command line to do a custom install. From experience the RPM route will create a distribution specific driver and should work with out problems.

I am showing the process under my system so the driver is version 8.12. The versions are not important just be sure to substitute as needed.

Suggestions:
The following should ideally be done after a clean install with all updates applied. The commands will need to be done as su - <Enter> in command line / terminal or for you to be logged in as root. I would guess in your case it'd have to be runlevel 3 as you were unable to get X started after a clean install.

The following will install the needed files to make the ATI driver:
1. yum install make automake autoconf gcc kernel-devel rpm-build

- You can get package command info by doing ./ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run --help One of the important commands is --listpkg as this advises what switch to use for distro specific builds.

You have said you use CentOS 5.2 x86_64 therefore you should use the RHEL 5 x86_64 option to build RPM package:
2. ./ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg RedHat/RHEL5_64a

Install the RPM package created:
3. yum localinstall fglrx64_7_1_0-8.561-1.x86_64.rpm
- Use localinstall just in case there is dependency needed by the driver.

4. If you have a working X setup I would first back up the working xorg.conf file found in /etc/X11 eg. cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig

5. Now you need to modify / create a suitable xorg.conf file. You can either use: aticonfig --initial which will create a hybrid file from the original or my preferred method: system-config-display --reconfig --set-driver=fglrx --set-resolution=AxB. This will create a clean file and not use any previous file.

- Change AxB to the resolution your monitor supports eg 1280x1024

6. You should restart your computer and if all is well will have X working with ATI driver.

7. In my case I add the following to xorg.conf under the Device section:
Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
Option "VideoOverlay" "on"

But this may not be needed in your particular case...

Hope that works
Posted on: 2009/1/28 19:50
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  •  khentiamentiu
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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I have Centos 5.2 running on a Dell Workstation with an ATI FireGL X1 128 card. I have never had a problem getting basic 2D video to work, but all my attempts to enable acceleration, especially 3D rendering, have failed. The last time I had accelerated 3D working was on Centos 4.3. I just tried the procedure described on this thread, but without any change. Mesa still runs in indirect mode, glxgears is still dog slow, and nothing I run recognizes the FireGL as anything but a basic card: No acceleration. Any idea what I need to do to fix this?

Thanks.

Glenn
Posted on: 2009/2/6 1:19
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  •  my_linux
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Did you disable SELinux before installing the RPM driver?? If no, un-install and reinstall the RPM driver after disabling SELinux. Also please confirm what fglrxinfo says in terminal and copy and paste your xorg.conf file.

If your xorg.conf does not have the following section consider adding it and do tests:

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "0"
EndSection
Posted on: 2009/2/6 21:50
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  •  khentiamentiu
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Quote:

my_linux wrote:
Did you disable SELinux before installing the RPM driver?? If no, un-install and reinstall the RPM driver after disabling SELinux. Also please confirm what fglrxinfo says in terminal and copy and paste your xorg.conf file.


Yes, I disabled SELinux before installation.

Quote:


If your xorg.conf does not have the following section consider adding it and do tests:

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "0"
EndSection


This didn't help. Here's the output from fglrxinfo

sudo fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)

My xorg.conf follows. Thanks for the help!

Glenn
--------------
# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "fglrx"
Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "0"
EndSection
Posted on: 2009/2/7 2:04
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  •  my_linux
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Seems you and jgalt123 are having the same problem?

I have found the following may be you should go through it to see if it helps:

http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux
Posted on: 2009/2/7 16:11
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  •  khentiamentiu
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Quote:

my_linux wrote:
Seems you and jgalt123 are having the same problem?

I have found the following may be you should go through it to see if it helps:

http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux


I have already tried everything listed at this website. A closer look at the ATI web pages indicates that none of AMD's most recent Linux drivers supports my card, the FireGL X1-128. Attempts to download the older drivers from the ATI website end fruitlessly: I click on the link and nothing downloads. Can't imagine why AMD bought ATI. Maybe it's time to buy an nVidia card.
Posted on: 2009/2/11 3:24
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  •  my_linux
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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khentiamentiu wrote:
Quote:
I have already tried everything listed at this website. A closer look at the ATI web pages indicates that none of AMD's most recent Linux drivers supports my card, the FireGL X1-128. Attempts to download the older drivers from the ATI website end fruitlessly: I click on the link and nothing downloads. Can't imagine why AMD bought ATI. Maybe it's time to buy an nVidia card.


This is quite bad on ATI's part as the Release notes for 9.1 indicate support too:
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html

Where did you see this info just so every can know?

Have you tried older drivers such as?
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/previous/linux64-rf-cat85.html
Posted on: 2009/2/11 9:17
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  •  khentiamentiu
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Quote:

my_linux wrote:
khentiamentiu wrote:
Quote:
I have already tried everything listed at this website. A closer look at the ATI web pages indicates that none of AMD's most recent Linux drivers supports my card, the FireGL X1-128. Attempts to download the older drivers from the ATI website end fruitlessly: I click on the link and nothing downloads. Can't imagine why AMD bought ATI. Maybe it's time to buy an nVidia card.


This is quite bad on ATI's part as the Release notes for 9.1 indicate support too:
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html

Where did you see this info just so every can know?


I saw this at the ATI Linux drivers wiki (http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Hardware), where it says:

Quote:

FireGL

Support for these cards are temporarily suspended as of the fglrx driver 8.40.4.

* FireGL T2 (4154)
* FireGL V3100 (5B64)
* FireGL V3200 (3E54)
* FireGL V3300 (5E49)
* FireGL V5000 (5E48)
* FireGL V5100 (5551)
* FireGL V7100 (5550)
* FireGL X1 (4E47)
* FireGL X2-256/X2-256t (4E4B)
* FireGL X3-256 (4A4D)
* FireGL Z1 (4147)


Either this wiki is out of date, or, given the trouble I've been having, "temporarily" includes now, if not "forever after." Of course, no support doesn't actually mean the drivers don't work, but ... I tried getting the 8.40.4 driver off the ATI website, but couldn't follow the link, and when I loaded the URL into my browser's location bar, pointing to a subdirectory of a248.e.akamai.net, I got a 404 error.

Quote:

Yes, I've tried that driver, with the same result. Of course, if I'm reading the driver's wiki correctly, this driver is too new. I haven't gone back to drivers before 8.40.4, such as 8.35.5, because they don't appear to support my version of X.org, 7.1.1. I guess that's the next step.

Glenn
Posted on: 2009/2/11 18:47
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  •  my_linux
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Quote:

Either this wiki is out of date, or, given the trouble I've been having, "temporarily" includes now, if not "forever after." Of course, no support doesn't actually mean the drivers don't work, but ... I tried getting the 8.40.4 driver off the ATI website, but couldn't follow the link, and when I loaded the URL into my browser's location bar, pointing to a subdirectory of a248.e.akamai.net, I got a 404 error.


I hope this link works for you as it does for me:

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/previous/linux64-r-8-40-4.html

and here is a list of more previous drivers:

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/radeonprevious-linux64.html
Posted on: 2009/2/11 20:15
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  •  my_linux
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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This is the only suggestion I have not made so far. You might have tried it?

Add the following to your xorg.conf file then reboot and see if the fglrx OpenGL is working using fglrxinfo.

Section "Module"
Load "glx" # 3D layer
Load "dri" # direct rendering
EndSection

Have you had any luck with other drivers already?
Posted on: 2009/2/14 9:57
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  •  khentiamentiu
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Re: Centos 5.2 with ati firegl 7600 and opengl
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Quote:

my_linux wrote:
This is the only suggestion I have not made so far. You might have tried it?

Add the following to your xorg.conf file then reboot and see if the fglrx OpenGL is working using fglrxinfo.

Section "Module"
Load "glx" # 3D layer
Load "dri" # direct rendering
EndSection

Have you had any luck with other drivers already?


Nope. I get the same result:

Quote:
304 [4:13pm] root -} fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)


Should these modules appear in the listing when I run lsmod? They don't.

Thanks.

Glenn
Posted on: 2009/2/18 0:17
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