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Laptop: Suspend
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I installed CentoOS 5.4 on my laptop, and there no longer seems to be a "suspend" option in my toolbar. How can I tell my laptop to either hibernate or go into a suspend mode?

Some OS specific info:
> uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.18-164.el5xen #1 SMP Thu Sep 3 04:47:32 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> uname -rmi
2.6.18-164.el5xen i686 i386


Any ideas?
Posted on: 2009/11/5 17:30
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  •  pjwelsh
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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Don't run the xen kernels!
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  •  JamesBoard
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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I don't usually tweak the kernel. xen is the default kernel that comes with CentOS, right?

Will switching to a non-xen fix this problem? Or is it generally good advice that might also fix this problem?

Is there an easy set of instructions for changing the kernel? What kernel do I change to? Can I do it with a yum update? If the kernel update fails, then I won't be able to boot the laptop, right? I'm a little uncomfortable with that.
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  •  pjwelsh
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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The .xen kernels are for running Xen virtualization. The command "yum install kernel" should be enough and is safe. The yum default is to keep other kernels (to a limit) on the system. You can always choose some other kernel to boot from the grub screen when you boot. Should be no big deal.
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  •  JamesBoard
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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I did "yum install kernel" and rebooted. However, I don't think I got the right kernel:

> uname -rmi
2.6.18-164.6.1.el5xen i686 i386


And, of course, I still don't have the power-saving features. What did I do wrong? What else must I do?

Thanks
Posted on: 2009/11/5 19:58
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  •  pjwelsh
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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Run "rpm -q kernel". There should be entires (just to make sure). You can 1) hit "any key" when you see the Grub kernel boot screen to select an alternative kernel or 2) edit (vi,emacs,whatever) /etc/grub.conf and change the "default=" line to match the title number (starting at 0) the kernel you want to boot by default.
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  •  JamesBoard
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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[code]
> rpm -q kernel
kernel-2.6.18-164.6.1.el5
[\code]
I'm not sure why that output disagrees with the "uname -rmi" output, which indicates it's a xen kernel.

Anyway, this thread is really about getting the power saving features working. What next?
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  •  JamesBoard
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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Never mind, I figured out how to tell grub to boot the new kernel. The Power-Save features work now. Thanks for your help!
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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Quote:

JamesBoard wrote:
I don't usually tweak the kernel. xen is the default kernel that comes with CentOS, right?


The xen kernel becomes the default only if you choose "Virtualization" at install time.

For the record, and to get the correct default after future updates, you need to edit /etc/sysconfig/kernel and change

DEFAULTKERNEL=kernel-xen

to

DEFAULTKERNEL=kernel

You may also want to "yum remove kernel-xen\*".
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  •  AlanBartlett
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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Perhaps a --

yum groupremove Virtualization

-- would now be the most appropriate step to take.
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  •  JamesBoard
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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So, I hate to resurrect a one-week old thread, but, after installing the new non-xen kernel, and using it, the power-save features worked briefly: maybe one or two times. Then, they no long work. I click "suspend" or "hybernate" from the Gnome power manager, and the power saving steps appear to initiate (screen goes blank, etc) but then 10 or 20 seconds later, the suspend fails, and then the laptop is left in fully powered on. Net result: the suspends still aren't working.

How would I go about debugging this?
Posted on: 2009/11/11 0:18
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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Any clues as to what might have changed between the working and non-working states?
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  •  JamesBoard
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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Yes: almost nothing changed. I tried rebooting and then simply did repeated Suspends, then un-suspends. Absolutely nothing changed from a configuration point of view. The suspends stopped working after the 3rd or 4th try.
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  •  JamesBoard
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I followed the advice given in response to this issue (I updated the kernel) and the power saving features like suspend and hybernate still don't work. What should I do?
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  •  AlanBartlett
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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What should I do?

A bug report, perhaps?
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  •  JamesBoard
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I tried to login at the bug-tracker page, but could not. I can not submit bug reports.
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  •  pjwelsh
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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Not sure about the bug login issue. Please post the output of
uname -a
lsusb
lspci
lsmod


Do you happen to have installed ndiswrapper or wireless something or other device between the time it worked and did not?
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  •  JamesBoard
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Here we go. That's a lot of stuff. I did not install ndiswrapper or wireless anything.

The power suspends work fine when I boot the machine. That's only for a few tries. Then they stop working. I didn't touch any root-owned files during the interval between working and non-working states. And further, when they don't work (meaning the laptop won't fully go into suspend-mode) the laptop does appear to proceed partially to suspend-mode: the screen blanks for a little while, and it looks almost as if it does make it to suspend-mode and then immediately wakes up. Does that help?


> uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.18-164.6.1.el5 #1 SMP Tue Nov 3 16:18:27 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux


> /sbin/lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
Bus 005 Device 006: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. M-UV69a/HP M-UV96 Optical Wheel Mouse
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  


> /sbin/lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d3)
00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
0> /sbin/lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d3)
00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300]
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
03:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI6515 Cardbus Controller
03:01.5 Communication controller: Texas Instruments PCI6515 SmartCard Controller
03:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
0:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300]
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
03:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI6515 Cardbus Controller
03:01.5 Communication controller: Texas Instruments PCI6515 SmartCard Controller
03:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)


> /sbin/lsmod | more
Module                  Size  Used by
radeon                106977  2 
drm                    65365  3 radeon
ipt_MASQUERADE          7617  1 
iptable_nat            11077  1 
ip_nat                 21101  2 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat
bridge                 53469  0 
autofs4                29253  3 
hidp                   23105  2 
rfcomm                 42457  0 
l2cap                  29505  10 hidp,rfcomm
bluetooth              53925  5 hidp,rfcomm,l2cap
lockd                  63081  0 
sunrpc                145405  2 lockd
ip_conntrack_netbios_ns     6977  0 
ipt_REJECT              9665  3 
xt_state                6209  3 
ip_conntrack           53281  5 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat,ip_nat,ip_conntrack_netbios_ns,xt_state
nfnetlink              10713  2 ip_nat,ip_conntrack
iptable_filter          7105  1 
ip_tables              17029  2 iptable_nat,iptable_filter
ip6t_REJECT             9409  1 
xt_tcpudp               7105  14 
ip6table_filter         6849  1 
ip6_tables             18053  1 ip6table_filter
x_tables               17349  8 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat,ipt_REJECT,xt_state,ip_tables,ip6t_REJECT,xt_tcpudp,ip6_tables
iscsi_tcp              19785  0 
bnx2i                  40157  0 
cnic                   25933  1 bnx2i
uio                    14793  1 cnic
cxgb3i                 43017  0 
iw_cxgb3               70061  0 
cxgb3                 165913  2 cxgb3i,iw_cxgb3
8021q                  24649  1 cxgb3
libiscsi_tcp           21957  2 iscsi_tcp,cxgb3i
cpufreq_ondemand       12493  1 
acpi_cpufreq           13897  0 
ib_iser                37273  0 
libiscsi2              42181  5 iscsi_tcp,bnx2i,cxgb3i,libiscsi_tcp,ib_iser
scsi_transport_iscsi2    37709  7 iscsi_tcp,bnx2i,cxgb3i,ib_iser,libiscsi2
scsi_transport_iscsi     6085  1 scsi_transport_iscsi2
ib_srp                 35289  0 
rds                   155333  0 
ib_sdp                 78857  0 
ib_ipoib               75113  0 
ipoib_helper            6473  2 ib_ipoib
ipv6                  267489  23 ip6t_REJECT,cnic,ib_ipoib
xfrm_nalgo             13381  1 ipv6
crypto_api             12609  1 xfrm_nalgo
rdma_ucm               16961  0 
rdma_cm                35449  4 ib_iser,rds,ib_sdp,rdma_ucm
ib_ucm                 19396  0 
ib_uverbs              34921  2 rdma_ucm,ib_ucm
ib_umad                18921  0 
ib_cm                  39213  4 ib_srp,ib_ipoib,rdma_cm,ib_ucm
iw_cm                  13125  1 rdma_cm
ib_addr                11845  1 rdma_cm
ib_sa                  39093  4 ib_srp,ib_ipoib,rdma_cm,ib_cm
ib_mad                 37845  3 ib_umad,ib_cm,ib_sa
ib_core                63685  15 iw_cxgb3,ib_iser,ib_srp,rds,ib_sdp,ib_ipoib,rdma_ucm,rdma_cm,ib_ucm,ib_uverbs,ib_umad,ib_cm,iw_cm,ib_sa,ib_
mad
dm_multipath           24909  0 
scsi_dh                11713  1 dm_multipath
video                  21193  0 
hwmon                   7365  0 
backlight              10049  1 video
sbs                    18533  0 
i2c_ec                  9025  1 sbs
button                 10705  0 
battery                13637  0 
asus_acpi              19289  0 
ac                      9157  0 
lp                     15849  0 
joydev                 13313  0 
sg                     36573  0 
snd_intel8x0           35421  1 
snd_seq_dummy           7877  0 
snd_seq_oss            32577  0 
snd_intel8x0m          20684  0 
snd_seq_midi_event     11073  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                49585  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_ac97_codec         93025  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m
tg3                   114501  0 
snd_seq_device         11725  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            42817  0 
snd_mixer_oss          19009  1 snd_pcm_oss
ac97_bus                6337  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                72133  4 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
ide_cd                 40161  1 
cdrom                  36577  1 ide_cd
ipw2200               137641  0 
ieee80211              34313  1 ipw2200
xfrm_nalgo             13381  1 ipv6
crypto_api             12609  1 xfrm_nalgo
rdma_ucm               16961  0 
rdma_cm                35449  4 ib_iser,rds,ib_sdp,rdma_ucm
ib_ucm                 19396  0 
ib_uverbs              34921  2 rdma_ucm,ib_ucm
ib_umad                18921  0 
ib_cm                  39213  4 ib_srp,ib_ipoib,rdma_cm,ib_ucm
iw_cm                  13125  1 rdma_cm
ib_addr                11845  1 rdma_cm
ib_sa                  39093  4 ib_srp,ib_ipoib,rdma_cm,ib_cm
ib_mad                 37845  3 ib_umad,ib_cm,ib_sa
ib_core                63685  15 iw_cxgb3,ib_iser,ib_srp,rds,ib_sdp,ib_ipoib,rdma_ucm,rdma_cm,ib_ucm,ib_uverbs,ib_umad,ib_cm,iw_cm,ib_sa,ib_
mad
dm_multipath           24909  0 
scsi_dh                11713  1 dm_multipath
video                  21193  0 
hwmon                   7365  0 
backlight              10049  1 video
sbs                    18533  0 
i2c_ec                  9025  1 sbs
button                 10705  0 
battery                13637  0 
asus_acpi              19289  0 
ac                      9157  0 
lp                     15849  0 
joydev                 13313  0 
sg                     36573  0 
snd_intel8x0           35421  1 
snd_seq_dummy           7877  0 
snd_seq_oss            32577  0 
snd_intel8x0m          20684  0 
snd_seq_midi_event     11073  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                49585  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_ac97_codec         93025  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m
tg3                   114501  0 
snd_seq_device         11725  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            42817  0 
snd_mixer_oss          19009  1 snd_pcm_oss
ac97_bus                6337  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                72133  4 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
ide_cd                 40161  1 
cdrom                  36577  1 ide_cd
ipw2200               137641  0 
ieee80211              34313  1 ipw2200
ieee80211_crypt        10049  1 ieee80211
i2c_i801               11725  0 
snd_timer              24517  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    55749  12 snd_intel8x0,snd_seq_oss,snd_intel8x0m,snd_seq,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_
pcm,snd_timer
pcspkr                  7105  0 
soundcore              11553  1 snd
i2c_core               23745  2 i2c_ec,i2c_i801
snd_page_alloc         14281  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m,snd_pcm
parport_pc             29157  1 
serio_raw              10693  0 
parport                37513  2 lp,parport_pc
dm_raid45              67145  0 
dm_message              6977  1 dm_raid45
dm_region_hash         15681  1 dm_raid45
dm_mem_cache            9537  1 dm_raid45
dm_snapshot            22885  0 
dm_zero                 6209  0 
dm_mirror              24265  0 
dm_log                 14657  3 dm_raid45,dm_region_hash,dm_mirror
dm_mod                 63225  11 dm_multipath,dm_raid45,dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror,dm_log
ata_piix               23621  2 
ahci                   34889  0 
libata                157317  2 ata_piix,ahci
sd_mod                 25281  3 
scsi_mod              141717  11 iscsi_tcp,bnx2i,cxgb3i,ib_iser,libiscsi2,scsi_transport_iscsi2,ib_srp,scsi_dh,sg,libata,sd_mod
ext3                  125001  2 
jbd                    57065  1 ext3
uhci_hcd               25421  0 
ohci_hcd               24553  0 
ehci_hcd               33869  0 
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  •  CiaW
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Re: Laptop: Suspend
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I logged on to search for and/or post a somewhat related query -- hibernate isn't working on my desktop computer.

I didn't notice this for a couple of days, but when you boot, do you notice it saying something like 'unable to access resume device LABEL=SWAP-sda3 (or whatever sda your swap device is ?) It would be right after it starts to boot. If so, perhaps look for my thread on that topic. Otherwise, carry on

Edit: I don't need to start a thread, I found something that worked here. I hadn't moved my partitions or anything but something got confused. I used the mkswap with -L per message 5 on above link and it hibernated ok and no resume device error message when I rebooted.
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  •  JamesBoard
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There is no "LABEL=SWAP-sda3" message, or anything similar in dmesg.

Can someone submit a bug report on this? I've been trying to get the basic power saving features to work for months. I'm really worried that because of this bug in CentOS Linux, the excess CO2 from millions of energy wasting Linux laptops is going to destroy planet earth.
Posted on: 2009/11/18 19:22
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