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Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta Available Today for Public Download

Post by gbailey » 2010/04/21 13:07:40

I saw that various people mentioned this on the mailing lists:

http://press.redhat.com/2010/04/21/red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-beta-available-today-for-public-download/

with downloads available at:

ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/rhel/beta/6/

I don't remember CentOS making betas of any point releases, but I seem to recall a beta of CentOS 5(.0) when RHEL5 was first available... Is it reasonable to assume the CentOS team would use this beta to get build systems in shape to produce CentOS 6.X releases?

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Post by NedSlider » 2010/04/21 13:16:06

CentOS did release a beta for 5 corresponding to the upstream beta2 release:

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2007-March/013617.html

I've no idea what the intentions are for 6, given that KB is still working all hours to get 5.5 done atm.

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Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta Available Today for Public Download

Post by Pumpino » 2010/04/21 21:36:22

It's quite exciting to have a new major version on its way.

Many people were expecting RHEL 6 to be based solely on Fedora 12, but many of the packages in RHEL 6 beta are newer than those in F12 (kernel, apache, dovecot, PHP, mysql, the gimp), which is a pleasant surprise.

From a technical perspective, is the task of producing a CentOS release more involved when it's a new major release? ie. when RHEL is offically released, can we expect a greater delay for CentOS 6 than say, 5.4-> 5.5, or doesn't this impact on the process?

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Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta Available Today for Public Download

Post by NedSlider » 2010/04/21 21:57:40

[quote]
Pumpino wrote:

From a technical perspective, is the task of producing a CentOS release more involved when it's a new major release? ie. when RHEL is offically released, can we expect a greater delay for CentOS 6 than say, 5.4-> 5.5, or doesn't this impact on the process?[/quote]

Yes the process is more involved. For a point release update one only has to build the new packages - those that have changed since the last point release. For a new version release one has to build everything.

That said, if one starts work now rebuilding the public beta releases, then one only has to build those packages that change between beta and release.

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Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta Available Today for Public Download

Post by Pumpino » 2010/04/21 23:17:14

That being the case, would we expect a major CentOS release to take more than the usual 2-4 weeks?

I'm guessing RHEL 6 final won't be released until June, so would expecting CentOS 6 to be released around July/August be realistic?

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Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta Available Today for Public Download

Post by lostson » 2010/04/22 02:31:32

downloading the beta now but as soon as a CentOS one hits i will get that and start testing and watching for bug squashing oportunities cant freakn wait

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Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta Available Today for Public Download

Post by Pumpino » 2010/04/22 03:02:36

[quote]lostson wrote:

cant freakn wait[/quote]
Yes, it's a rare event...once every 3+ years!

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Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta Available Today for Public Download

Post by NedSlider » 2010/04/22 13:40:43

[quote]
lostson wrote:
downloading the beta now but as soon as a CentOS one hits i will get that and start testing and watching for bug squashing oportunities cant freakn wait[/quote]

You can now read the official CentOS position EL6 beta's here:

https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=25878&forum=53

and on Planet CentOS:

http://planet.centos.org/

So the official line is please test the RHEL6 beta and feed back into that in the knowledge that it will filter back down into the CentOS product when released.

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Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta Available Today for Public Download

Post by RonB » 2010/04/22 20:49:23

[quote]
NedSlider wrote:
[quote]
lostson wrote:
downloading the beta now but as soon as a CentOS one hits i will get that and start testing and watching for bug squashing oportunities cant freakn wait[/quote]

You can now read the official CentOS position EL6 beta's here:

https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=25878&forum=53

and on Planet CentOS:

http://planet.centos.org/

So the official line is please test the RHEL6 beta and feed back into that in the knowledge that it will filter back down into the CentOS product when released.[/quote]

The second link takes you to a torrent download link, which appears to be much faster than the Redhat download link. Last night I got 1.3 Gigs downloaded (at Redhat) before something went wrong. The torrent says I should be done in about 2 hours. I'll keep seeding for at least a few days.

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Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta Available Today for Public Download

Post by pschaff » 2010/04/22 21:15:52

Initial observations from an install of Developer Workstation option for x86_64 on VirtualBox 3.1.6:

Virtualization options were selected by default on a VM installation. May be something to watch out for.

emacs was already selected by default - yea!

kdeadmin was automatically added when KDE was selected - another new wrinkle.

Print Server was not selected by default on the Workstation install - seems like a potentially problematic change.

The (virtual) DVD was locked when an eject was attempted at the end of the install.

After firstboot did not get an IPv4 address - /sbin/ifconfig showed an IPv6 address only, but no connectivity. Looks like NetworkManager is the default network tool, but both NetworkManager and network service are running by default - usually not a good idea in my experience. Configured eth0 with the NetworkManager interface and networking then worked.

Seems system-config-display has disappeared and can't get more than 800x600 on a 1600x1200 display. :-(

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