CentOS 4.8 fails to install on Pentium III

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CentOS 4.8 fails to install on Pentium III

Postby darthtraya » 2010/12/25 19:45:46

Hi there: though I'm rather new with Red-Hat based systems, such as CentOS, I wanted to install it on an old machine (Pentium III @ 600 MHz, 256 MB RAM), so I downloaded the 4.8 DVD release. I booted it (in the "i586" mode), followed the installer (no problem configurating HDD RAID), but when it starts to install, just freezes at some point of the installation (the first time happened while formatting the partitions, the second time I tried when installing some packet...) so I can't install it. Might there be any problem with the RAID, or maybe I should use an older release?

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CentOS 4.8 fails to install on Pentium III

Postby toracat » 2010/12/25 23:18:20

My understanding is that Pentium III is the 686 class. Are you sure you need i586? Also, try a minimal install (no GUI).

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Re: CentOS 4.8 fails to install on Pentium III

Postby AlanBartlett » 2010/12/25 23:46:24

Confirming that a PIII is an i686 class processor.

My workstation is a 450MHz PIII UP system with 768MB of system RAM (and happily runs CentOS 5). :-)

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Re: CentOS 4.8 fails to install on Pentium III

Postby darthtraya » 2010/12/26 01:13:08

Thenk you very much , I don't know what I was thinking of... By the way, I'm trying to make a CentOS cluster with several old machines (PIII, AMD K6 and K5, ...) and some of them are i586 which is only supported by CentOS 4.8. Is it better to have the same version of the system in every node or it's better to install version 5 in i686s and 4.8 in i586s? Thanks again

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Re: CentOS 4.8 fails to install on Pentium III

Postby AlanBartlett » 2010/12/26 13:47:29

It would be intrinsically simpler in administration terms for all systems in the cluster to be running the same version of OS. However I am not aware of any requirement that is a prerequisite -- indeed, I would be surprised if that were the case.

That said, I would consider how long the cluster will be required to operate and how long CentOS 4 has before it reaches EOL. As a believer of variety, I would set up all systems with processors < i686 as CentOS 4 and the rest as CentOS 5. But then again, I don't administer any clusters.

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Re: CentOS 4.8 fails to install on Pentium III

Postby darthtraya » 2010/12/26 17:22:48

I tried installing it in text mode (booting with "linux text"), but it still fails to install it. Formatted correctly the partitions, but it gave me an strange error while installing the system and the packets... I took a picture of the error, which I'm going to upload... I've checked the DVD and also the reader but they work fine in other PCs, although when I check the disk with the computer I'm going to install on, it says the media is wrong, but I've also tried with another disk... I'm running out of ideas, what can I do?

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Re: CentOS 4.8 fails to install on Pentium III

Postby darthtraya » 2010/12/26 17:25:56

Sorry I couldn't upload the image, I sent it to ImageShack: http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/90/dsc00304vo.jpg

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Re: CentOS 4.8 fails to install on Pentium III

Postby AlanBartlett » 2010/12/27 01:45:02

Sorry I couldn't upload the image

The ability to upload is broken and this forum software will not be fixed, as WebSite V2.0 is currently being developed.

Looking at that image, there wasn't a great deal that I could deduce. However it does seem to be centred around the IDE disk driver and its interrupt handling. There is one line that makes me wonder if you have the most up to date version of the BIOS installed in the system. I would suggest you check that before anything else..

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Re: CentOS 4.8 fails to install on Pentium III

Postby darthtraya » 2010/12/27 10:39:51

I don't think the BIOS is updated (it's an old PC), so I'll try to find the last update and apply it. Back to what you said about the IDE driver, might it be related to something I'm doing wrong with the RAID? It's two IDE disks, both 4 GB, so they're old too but I can try to install on a larger disk. It's strange, that when I check the DVD for errors it says there's something wrong, but when I check with another computer (using the same reader) it says everything's OK... Thanks anyway for answering so quickly

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Re: CentOS 4.8 fails to install on Pentium III

Postby AlanBartlett » 2010/12/27 16:13:39

Back to what you said about the IDE driver, might it be related to something I'm doing wrong with the RAID?

Huh? RAID? First mention of such . . . as I seem to recall. That could well be an issue. If there is not a true hardware RAID controller in the system, then you would be advised to use the Linux kernel software RAID and not a BIOS / fake RAID. A search through past forum posts will show that the attempted usage of a BIOS / fake RAID is the source of considerable problems, confusion and data loss. (BIOS / fake RAIDs are only of relevance in the Redmond 'Doze OS environment).

As for two 4 GB hard disks -- are you sure of their capacity? Could they actually be 40 GB? I wouldn't consider attempting to install on a disk smaller than 25 GB -- even if pushed and would consider 40 GB to be the viable minimum for a workstation, not a server.

when I check the DVD for errors it says there's something wrong

How are you checking? After booting the DVD, by selecting the media check option?

Again, the information you have provided is pointing back to the BIOS, BIOS configuration or the disk controller.