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simon_lefisch
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Show Failed Login Attempts When Logging In As User

Post by simon_lefisch » 2017/07/20 04:48:34

Hi everyone,

I wasn't sure if this should be in the software section or general section so forgive me if this is in the section.

If you login as root, terminal shows a short summary of failed login attempts. Is there any way to have that show up when logging in as a regular user? I'm the only person who administers the machine and I typically use my regular account, but may switch to root using sudo -s. It'd be cool to have that show up when logging in.

Sorry for the noob question. Still learning the basics of Linux. TIA
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Re: Show Failed Login Attempts When Logging In As User

Post by TrevorH » 2017/07/20 12:58:31

I've never seen any "short summary of failed login attempts" on login with any user. Are you sure this isn't something you've added yourself? The lastb command can show you things like this but it needs to be run as root.
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Re: Show Failed Login Attempts When Logging In As User

Post by simon_lefisch » 2017/07/20 14:54:40

TrevorH wrote:I've never seen any "short summary of failed login attempts" on login with any user. Are you sure this isn't something you've added yourself? The lastb command can show you things like this but it needs to be run as root.
Hi @TrevorH, thanks for responding. I am quite sure that I did not add anything. I have a screenshot below.
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Re: Show Failed Login Attempts When Logging In As User

Post by MartinR » 2017/07/20 15:08:36

That also works for ordinary users:

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$ ssh <me>@<VM machine>
Last failed login: Thu Jul 20 16:00:55 BST 2017 from <real machine> on ssh:notty
There were 3 failed login attempts since the last successful login.
Last login: Thu Jul 20 15:59:06 2017 from <real machine>
[<me>@<VM machine> ~]$
From login(1)
Then the user's shell is started. If no shell is specified for the
user in /etc/passwd, then /bin/sh is used. If there is no directory
specified in /etc/passwd, then / is used (the home directory is checked
for the .hushlogin file described below).

If the file .hushlogin exists, then a "quiet" login is performed (this
disables the checking of mail and the printing of the last login time
and message of the day). Otherwise, if /var/log/lastlog exists, the
last login time is printed (and the current login is recorded).
So have a look for a file called .hushlogin in your home directory. Do note that if there were no failures then that fact is not reported and you will only see the "Last login" line.

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Re: Show Failed Login Attempts When Logging In As User

Post by simon_lefisch » 2017/07/24 22:21:28

MartinR wrote:That also works for ordinary users:

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$ ssh <me>@<VM machine>
Last failed login: Thu Jul 20 16:00:55 BST 2017 from <real machine> on ssh:notty
There were 3 failed login attempts since the last successful login.
Last login: Thu Jul 20 15:59:06 2017 from <real machine>
[<me>@<VM machine> ~]$
From login(1)
Then the user's shell is started. If no shell is specified for the
user in /etc/passwd, then /bin/sh is used. If there is no directory
specified in /etc/passwd, then / is used (the home directory is checked
for the .hushlogin file described below).

If the file .hushlogin exists, then a "quiet" login is performed (this
disables the checking of mail and the printing of the last login time
and message of the day). Otherwise, if /var/log/lastlog exists, the
last login time is printed (and the current login is recorded).
So have a look for a file called .hushlogin in your home directory. Do note that if there were no failures then that fact is not reported and you will only see the "Last login" line.
Sorry for the late response. I did not find that file in my home directory. I assume maybe it shows when there have been failed login attempts? Since I have changed the default ssh port I have not seen any failed attempts (which is good :D). Thank you for the response.
Hardware:
Supermicro X10SRi-F mobo
E5-2683v4 16-core CPU
112GB ECC RAM
2x 250GB SSD RAID1 (current CentOS 7 version)
2x 500GB SSD RAID1 (VM Disk Image Storage)
2x 4TB HDD RAID1 (Backup Storage via FreeNAS VM)
2X 6TB HDD RAID1 (Data Storage via FreeNAS VM)

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Re: Show Failed Login Attempts When Logging In As User

Post by gergerdotcom » 2019/02/01 07:13:17

simon_lefisch wrote:
2017/07/20 04:48:34

Hi everyone,

I wasn't sure if this should be in the software section or general section so forgive me if this is in the section.

If you login as root, terminal shows a short summary of failed login attempts. Is there any way to have that show up when logging in as a regular user? I'm the only person who administers the machine and I typically use my regular account, but may switch to root using sudo -s. It'd be cool to have that show up when logging in.

Sorry for the noob question. Still learning the basics of Linux. TIA


it seems i have the same or perhaps almost the same problem with simon_lefisch though his problem happens way back 2017 lol


on my part, i tried to login as user then created another user named staffuser ... but when i input my root password to complete the tasks, it says that i'm wrong with the password used.

so i reboot then login as root with that wrong password used but i got in ... so i logout then re-login as user and doing the same steps but again it shows again i have the wrong password in which it already shows i was denied 2-times already :(

at the moment, i was denied 3-times already and i reboot then login only as root.

may i know how many default attempts is allowed in centOS for a simple user before it looks out?


and is there a way to reset that 3-times already failed attempt that i did? ... i mean i'm worried to do some tinkering using from user-account then just to apply sudo to take it effect, the functions because it may be count to 4-times or be totally locked at all :?


besides, is there a chance also to increase the failed attempts or denies for both user and root users??


hope this is not too much to ask .. thanks.

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Re: Show Failed Login Attempts When Logging In As User

Post by MartinR » 2019/02/01 11:00:06

on my part, i tried to login as user then created another user named staffuser ... but when i input my root password to complete the tasks, it says that i'm wrong with the password used.
If you are logged in as a user and using sudo to complete the action you need to put in your own password, not root's. The sudoers file determines who is allowed to act as root and so you need to identify yourself. Remember that the sudo mechanism allows a tailored privilege, see the man page sudoers(5) for examples. I think you are confusing sudo with su; they are very different scenarios.
so i reboot then login as root with that wrong password used but i got in ... so i logout then re-login as user and doing the same steps but again it shows again i have the wrong password in which it already shows i was denied 2-times already :(
Why reboot? This isn't Windows! You were able to log in as root because you were using root's password (the "wrong" one). You then logged in as yourself and attempted to prove your identity with root's password (again), which is wrong. You prove your identity with your password.
at the moment, i was denied 3-times already and i reboot then login only as root.
You'll be getting the picture by now. Logging in as root with root's password is fine (if poor policy).
may i know how many default attempts is allowed in centOS for a simple user before it looks out?
Each time you successfully log in you are resetting the count. Off hand I don't know if sudo increments the count.
and is there a way to reset that 3-times already failed attempt that i did? ... i mean i'm worried to do some tinkering using from user-account then just to apply sudo to take it effect, the functions because it may be count to 4-times or be totally locked at all :?
Right, stop and have a coffee. Think about the above and you'll realise why you failed.
besides, is there a chance also to increase the failed attempts or denies for both user and root users??
Yes, but you don't need to.
hope this is not too much to ask .. thanks.
Don't worry. We've all been in the situation you are slogging away at the wrong problem. It usually happens when the boss has dropped in "just to see how things are going". :oops:

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Re: Show Failed Login Attempts When Logging In As User

Post by gergerdotcom » 2019/02/04 06:46:04

tyvm MartinR for a very enlithening reply <E>;)


now i know that for every right password that i used to login ... then it will reset the worng password that i have inputted lol

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