CentOS 7 wont boot if the system is heated up

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fr2632
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Re: CentOS 7 wont boot if the system is heated up

Post by fr2632 » 2015/07/02 07:18:28

TrevorH wrote:No, your symptoms smell so strongly of hardware problems that I can sniff them from here...
Haha! Ok, I will order a new power supply and let you know if that was the issue. Thank you so far :)

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Re: CentOS 7 wont boot if the system is heated up

Post by vl1969 » 2015/07/02 14:19:47

before you order new power supply, if you have a spare hard drive, I would mirror the boot drive on a spare and see if that solved the issue.

it very well may be a failing hard drive. it might stick when heated and not spin-up fast enough on boot

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Re: CentOS 7 wont boot if the system is heated up

Post by fr2632 » 2015/07/02 14:33:44

vl1969 wrote:before you order new power supply, if you have a spare hard drive, I would mirror the boot drive on a spare and see if that solved the issue.

it very well may be a failing hard drive. it might stick when heated and not spin-up fast enough on boot
Thats good one! The HD is an old 3.5 sata and according to hddtemp it reaches a temperature of 48 degrees (which is too hot as far as I know)

I will try that as well, many thanks!

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Re: CentOS 7 wont boot if the system is heated up

Post by vl1969 » 2015/07/02 14:41:53

I had similar issue with one of my PC last year.
I thought it was windows issue as it run Win7 at the time.
when I reinstall windows and had the issue still I drop in a hard drive with Linux and it would work just fine.
so I got myself new SSD (have been thinking to get one for a while and it was on sale) load up windows on it and no issue.
plug the old HDD back, and got the problem booting again.
load up the old HDD with Linux Mint, the boot problem got better but still happend. thus , scraped the HDD and moved on. FYI, you might still have problems with power supply if it's too old, but if you have a newer HDD I would try that first.

fr2632
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Re: CentOS 7 wont boot if the system is heated up

Post by fr2632 » 2015/07/02 15:29:37

vl1969 wrote:I had similar issue with one of my PC last year.
I thought it was windows issue as it run Win7 at the time.
when I reinstall windows and had the issue still I drop in a hard drive with Linux and it would work just fine.
so I got myself new SSD (have been thinking to get one for a while and it was on sale) load up windows on it and no issue.
plug the old HDD back, and got the problem booting again.
load up the old HDD with Linux Mint, the boot problem got better but still happend. thus , scraped the HDD and moved on. FYI, you might still have problems with power supply if it's too old, but if you have a newer HDD I would try that first.
Thanks for sharing this. I will do a few test and let you know :)

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Re: CentOS 7 wont boot if the system is heated up

Post by fr2632 » 2015/07/03 19:24:15

Ok guys,

Here is so far what I`ve tried :

I swapped the HD and installed the system once again : same problem but this time after 2 times self rebooting I`ve got the following :

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Welcome to emergency mode! After logging in, type "journalctl -xb" to view
system logs, "systemctl reboot" to reboot, "systemctl default" to try again
to boot into default mode.
Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D to continue):
I boot up with a gentoo live cd and I ran the command

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dmidecode -t chassis
and I get :

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# dmidecode 2.12
SMBIOS 2.6 present.

Handle 0x0003, DMI type 3, 17 bytes
Chassis Information
        Manufacturer: Supermicro
        Type: Other
        Lock: Not Present
        Version: Chassis Version
        Serial Number: Chassis Serial Number
        Asset Tag: 
        Boot-up State: Safe
        Power Supply State: Safe
        Thermal State: Safe
        Security Status: None
        OEM Information: 0x00001234

Then I tried to stress the CPU with

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burnP6 || echo $? &


and after 5 minutes with 100% CPU the system was still stable. Btw he never reboots by itself when on LiveCD or BIOS, only just after the GRUB menu when he tries to boot up the OS installed on the HD...

At this point I doubt that the issue is the power supply and I have no clue what else could it be...

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Re: CentOS 7 wont boot if the system is heated up

Post by gerald_clark » 2015/07/03 20:40:12

You have not replaced the PS, so why do you doubt it is a PS problem.
Hard drives seeking put a higher load on the PS than a live DVD.

fr2632
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Re: CentOS 7 wont boot if the system is heated up

Post by fr2632 » 2015/07/03 20:45:02

gerald_clark wrote:You have not replaced the PS, so why do you doubt it is a PS problem.
Hard drives seeking put a higher load on the PS than a live DVD.
I doubt it because I think that if the PS has failures than it doesn't matter what you do, it will always reboot or shutting down, or am I wrong?

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Re: [SOLVED] CentOS 7 wont boot if the system is heated up

Post by fr2632 » 2015/07/04 09:48:52

@TrevorH
You had 100% right! I replaced the PS and now its working like it should! :D Thanks a lot for your help!

I removed SOLVED as this is not solved. CentOS 7 keeps rebooting and / or freezing :x

It stops after the GRUB menu or with a black screen and blinking cursor or with the CentOS loading page and in both cases the keyboard is not responding and I have to force it with the pwr button!

The errors (in red) I found in the log are :

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NetworkManager[791]: _nl_get_vtable: assertion 'vtable.handle' failed
systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: Start or stop the Webmin server.
systemd[1]: Unit webmin.service entered failed state.
Process: 1331 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/webmin start (code=exited, status=255)
kernel: kvm: disabled by bios
systemd[1]: /usr/lib/systemd/system-generators/anaconda-generator exited with exit status 1.
Any idea ?

Where can I get more detailed information ?

Thanks!

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