ftp timeout with firewalld (CentOS 7.4) and vSFTPD

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ftp timeout with firewalld (CentOS 7.4) and vSFTPD

Post by schneider0 » 2018/04/23 13:29:32

Hi,

I have the same problem as described here:
https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=60741
however it is a normal CentOS installation, not a Google Compute Engine instance, so I am not sure how the described solution would be in my case.

I have added ports 21 and 42000-42100 for ftp the passive mode and the ftp service to the firewalld configuration, selinux is permissive and pasv_enable as well as pasv_min/max ports are set in the vsftpd.conf. Still, I am getting timeout when trying to transfer with ftp, listing works though...

Any ideas?

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Re: ftp timeout with firewalld (CentOS 7.4) and vSFTPD

Post by TrevorH » 2018/04/23 13:34:47

If you use firewalld then undo what you already did and run firewall-cmd --permanent --add-service=ftp then again without the --permanent or reload firewalld. That opens port 21 and loads nf_conntrack_ftp which automatically handles opening all the transient ports required without having to hard-code them as open (a bad idea).

If you use iptables then add a rule to allow tcp port 21 and edit /etc/sysconfig/iptables and add nf_conntrack_ftp to the list of iptables modules to be loaded at startup. Make sure your iptables rules includes the default one that allows RELATED.ESTABLISHED connections.
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Re: ftp timeout with firewalld (CentOS 7.4) and vSFTPD

Post by schneider0 » 2018/04/23 13:40:35

Hm, but I have that already.
You mean delete the rest and add just the service to firewalld?
(I don't use iptables but for some reason iptables -L gives an output), maybe firewalld is using it?

Here is what I have at the moment:

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[root@www lemur]# firewall-cmd --list-all
public (active)
  target: default
  icmp-block-inversion: no
  interfaces: ens10
  sources:
  services: ssh dhcpv6-client http dns ftp https
  ports: 21/tcp 42000-42100/tcp
  protocols:
  masquerade: no
  forward-ports:
  source-ports:
  icmp-blocks:
  rich rules:


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Re: ftp timeout with firewalld (CentOS 7.4) and vSFTPD

Post by TrevorH » 2018/04/23 15:05:30

Yes, firewalld adds and maintains iptables rules but it runs as a daemon and continually checks the running rules to make sure they match what it expects and will put them back the way it thinks they should be if they differ. Thus it is not possible to use the iptables command to modify the rules it sets up as it will promptly undo any changes you make - adding back any removed rules and removing any that are added.

You can safely use iptables to _list_ the rules though they are massive and confusing to read.

If you use firewall-cmd --add-port=21/tcp that is not the same thing as running firewall-cmd --add-service=ftp. The latter uses the xml from /usr/lib/firewalld/services/ftp.xml to add the rules and that xml file says

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<service>
  <short>FTP</short>
  <description>FTP is a protocol used for remote file transfer. If you plan to make your FTP server publicly available, enable this option. You need the vsftpd package installed for this option to be useful.</description>
  <port protocol="tcp" port="21"/>
  <module name="nf_conntrack_ftp"/>
</service>
which is _similar_ but not the same thing at all.

Remove your "ports: 21/tcp 42000-42100/tcp" rules from firewalld and use the --add-service=ftp version
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Re: ftp timeout with firewalld (CentOS 7.4) and vSFTPD

Post by schneider0 » 2018/04/25 14:32:29

Thanks for the explanation, I have changed firewalld to use just the service:

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[root@www lemur]# firewall-cmd --list-all
public (active)
  target: default
  icmp-block-inversion: no
  interfaces: ens18
  sources:
  services: ssh dhcpv6-client http dns ftp https
  ports:
  protocols:
  masquerade: no
  forward-ports:
  source-ports:
  icmp-blocks:
  rich rules:
However the ftp transfer still gives a timout...
I gave a ddwrt router in between, but this server is in the dmz so that should not affect it, right?
Nevertheless when I stop firewalld, I am able to do ftp transfers without problems, so I assume firewalld needs some additional rules?!

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Re: ftp timeout with firewalld (CentOS 7.4) and vSFTPD

Post by TrevorH » 2018/04/25 15:26:21

Well it shouldn't... I run an ftp server but use plain old iptables and just the one rule for port 21 and having nf_conntrack_ftp works for me.
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Re: ftp timeout with firewalld (CentOS 7.4) and vSFTPD

Post by ant0nwax » 2018/04/28 07:12:14

I am working together with schneider0

Sat Apr 28 09:01:20 2018 [pid 42] [userdeleted] FTP command: Client "IPDELETED", "CWD /FOLDER"
Sat Apr 28 09:01:20 2018 [pid 42] [userdeleted] FTP response: Client "IPDELETED", "250 Directory successfully changed."
Sat Apr 28 09:01:20 2018 [pid 42] [userdeleted] FTP command: Client "IPDELETED", "RETR file.ext"
Sat Apr 28 09:01:20 2018 [pid 42] [userdeleted] FTP response: Client "IPDELETED", "150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for file.ext (1234 bytes)."
Sat Apr 28 09:01:20 2018 [pid 42] [userdeleted] OK DOWNLOAD: Client "IPDELETED", "/FOLDER/file.ext", 1234 bytes, 108.26Kbyte/sec

Hi All

this is the vsftpd log with firewalld service running and also if service is not running, thats really strange

the ftp clients from the WWW are reacting differently according to firewalld running or not running:

if firewalld is stopped, the file is retrieved
if firewalld is running, the file is not retrieved due to timeout, no error message in client actually, i did not check yet client logs, i might be able to do this later

does anyone of you had a similar setup once?

I even replaced the NAT router now to a more professional MikroTik instead of the outdated DDWRT

Thanks in advance for all your comments

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Re: ftp timeout with firewalld (CentOS 7.4) and vSFTPD

Post by ant0nwax » 2018/05/05 05:49:15

I updated CentOS with yum update to the latest state, did also not solve the timeout on client side.

Maybe do I I have to manually edit the firewalld ftpd.xml file and add there some settings?

Maybe there are some rules in firewalld that are blocking, how can I print all rules of firewalld?

Thanks for some help

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Re: ftp timeout with firewalld (CentOS 7.4) and vSFTPD

Post by TrevorH » 2018/05/05 10:16:39

I don't use firewalld but I have an el7 ftp server that works perfectly with nf_conntrack_ftp loaded and the following two rules:

-A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 21 -m set --match-set UK_IP src -j ACCEPT
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