15:00:30 <kushal> #startmeeting CentOS Cloud SIG 15:00:30 <centbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 7 15:00:30 2016 UTC. The chair is kushal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:30 <centbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:36 <kushal> Who all are here? 15:00:42 <rbowen> Yo 15:00:48 <number80> o/ 15:01:02 <rbowen> dneary said he'd drop by a little late to discuss nfv things. 15:01:10 <number80> great 15:01:23 <kushal> rbowen, Cool :) 15:01:55 <kushal> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/centos-cloud-sig 15:02:04 <kushal> Meeting agenda can be found at ^^^ 15:03:29 <number80> ack 15:03:46 <kushal> First point: * OpenStack packaging 15:03:53 <kushal> number80, stage is yours :) 15:04:00 <kbsingh> I am here too 15:04:01 <kushal> deryni-work, welcome :) 15:04:13 <kushal> #chair kbsingh deryni-work number80 rbowen 15:04:13 <centbot> Current chairs: deryni-work kbsingh kushal number80 rbowen 15:04:14 <number80> We shipped this week in release, first liberty patch release 15:04:38 <kushal> #info First liberty patch release is shipped. 15:05:02 <number80> rbowen already announced our doc hackfest and testing days for the next openstack release 15:05:17 <rbowen> Jan 20, and Jan 28, respectively. 15:05:48 <kushal> #info OpenStack doc hackfest in on January 20th, and the testing day is on January 28th 15:05:57 <number80> rbowen: just noticed it was not Cc'ed on centos-devel list 15:06:09 <rbowen> Oh, crap. I'll do that promptly. 15:06:20 <number80> np 15:06:46 <kushal> number80, Do you have any blockers? 15:06:50 <kbsingh> so, number80 one thing we still need to close on is announcing the updates 15:06:57 <kbsingh> I've made some headway 15:07:02 <number80> kushal: nope on this front 15:07:07 <kushal> number80, Good :) 15:07:17 <kbsingh> but one thing that I need to know is who and where should we be posting these - I will push to centos-announce, should i also be sending to the rdo list ? 15:07:31 <kbsingh> at this point, this is one email per tag per day 15:07:31 <rbowen> Yes, please. 15:07:39 <number80> kbsingh: yes, should I send you a changes digest? 15:07:49 <kbsingh> but it can be split up to be one email per package ( might be too verbose.. ) 15:07:57 <number80> #info OpenStack operational tools import in progress 15:08:00 <kbsingh> number80: at the moment, i am working to extract from changelog 15:08:05 <number80> kbsingh: ok 15:08:52 <number80> I'm also working on importing Operational tools in CBS, a contribution from Graeme Gillies 15:09:08 <kbsingh> cool 15:09:12 <number80> it includes the ELK stack, grafana and many stuff 15:09:15 <dneary> I'm here - sorry I'm late 15:09:23 <kushal> dneary, welcome :) 15:09:27 <kushal> #chair dneary 15:09:27 <centbot> Current chairs: deryni-work dneary kbsingh kushal number80 rbowen 15:09:30 <dneary> Thanks kushal! 15:09:44 <kushal> dneary, we are discussing RDO packaging. 15:09:59 <number80> we'd like to encourage a new SIG around operational tools and at some point, transition packages ownership to the new SIG 15:10:00 <kushal> dneary, agenda is in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/centos-cloud-sig 15:10:01 * dneary scrolls up 15:10:17 <number80> but until then, it'll be under the Cloud SIG umbrella 15:11:18 <number80> currently, only grafana deps (nodejs libs mostly) and ElasticSearch are requiring some efforts, the rest is already built 15:11:22 <kushal> number80, Okay, but for that we have to get more people to maintain those. 15:11:49 <number80> kushal: well, meeting some people at devconf.cz that may be interested in helping 15:11:58 <kushal> number80, Nice. 15:12:25 <kbsingh> so 15:12:51 <kbsingh> does this tie in at all with the BitScout effort ? 15:13:12 <number80> BitScout? 15:13:50 <csim> number80: https://github.com/BitScoutOrg 15:13:52 <number80> probably not, since I haven't heard of that but if we could collaborate, all the better 15:14:12 <number80> could be 15:14:24 <kbsingh> they re doing some of these bits as well, and are looking at doing this in CentOS space 15:14:42 <kbsingh> elastic and grafana both figure on their list 15:14:44 <number80> ok, then I must have spoken to their manager 15:15:02 <kbsingh> might be worth pinging them and look at potential overlap / for both effort and ownership 15:15:19 <number80> kbsingh: will send you an email, but Rich M is in the loop already 15:15:58 <number80> globally, we were speaking about how to collaborate around the packaging within CentOS for the ELK and alike stack 15:16:32 <kbsingh> sounds good 15:16:40 <kbsingh> we might be able to get involved from the centos infra as well 15:17:09 <number80> yup, before the holidays, I was planning to ping you about it 15:18:02 <kushal> number80, Feel free to add any action or info items. 15:18:33 <number80> #action hguemar coordinate w/ KB about optools discussion at devconf.cz 15:18:42 <number80> EOF then for openstack 15:19:06 <kushal> Next 15:19:07 <kushal> * OpenNebula update 15:19:13 <kushal> jmelis, you there? 15:19:23 <jmelis> yes 15:19:35 <kushal> jmelis, hi :) 15:19:37 <rbowen> #chair jmelis 15:19:37 <centbot> Current chairs: deryni-work dneary jmelis kbsingh kushal number80 rbowen 15:19:44 <kushal> rbowen, you are fast :) 15:19:44 <jmelis> sorry, we have no updates, jfontan is not available today and I think he didn't make any progress last month 15:20:02 <kushal> jmelis, Okay, is there something we can do to help? 15:20:07 <kushal> * help you 15:20:34 <jmelis> no tsure to be honest 15:20:42 <jmelis> let me talk to jfontan and I'll get back to you 15:21:10 <kushal> jmelis, Thanks :) 15:21:29 <kushal> #action jmelis will get back to the SIG about any help required. 15:21:38 <kushal> jmelis, I hope ^^ this is okay? 15:22:33 <kbsingh> one of the things that i'm looking at - from the instance sig side - is to work on context / metadata / init code for opennebula and cloudstack 15:23:10 <kbsingh> i.e get them to build their contexutalisation code, not the cloud controller / hv / storage stuff - and start churning images specific to that workload 15:23:31 <kbsingh> hope being to bootstrap, using a low barrier, their community intraction 15:23:45 <kbsingh> jmelis has promised to get jfontan to do the work for opennebula :) 15:23:55 <jmelis> haha 15:24:04 <jmelis> I promised I'd try! 15:24:09 <kbsingh> and I'm trying to tie down one specific person to do this for cloud stack as well. but there is general agreement that this is a low barrier 15:24:58 <dmsimard> \o/ the new images are out 15:25:01 <dmsimard> Thanks kbsingh ! 15:25:10 <kbsingh> dmsimard: do they work ?? 15:25:12 <dmsimard> (and everyone else involved ofc) 15:25:18 <dmsimard> OH, I don't know yet haha :) 15:25:25 <dmsimard> testing one now 15:25:30 <kbsingh> :) 15:26:19 <dmsimard> hmm, can you enlighten me with the difference between qcow2 and qcow2c ? 15:26:46 <dmsimard> (I don't see a "pure" qcow2 image for this release) 15:26:51 <kushal> I guess we are moving to different topics. 15:27:01 <dmsimard> OH, I'm in the middle of a meeting, sorry. 15:27:07 <kbsingh> qcow2 is qcow2, the qcow2c is created with --compress, so dont use it, its slower 15:27:17 <kushal> dmsimard, No problem, we can discuss these after some time :) 15:27:33 <dmsimard> kushal: thanks for pointing it out. 15:27:36 <kushal> Next is NFV update from dneary 15:27:54 <dneary> No progress since last meeting, I'm afraid - Christmas break 15:28:14 <dneary> I have an action to start a discussion with NFV SIG participants about merging with the Cloud SIG 15:28:50 <dneary> And I was just talking to kbsingh earlier about the need to have a getting started document for (1) consuming SIG created packages and (2) creating packages in a SIG 15:29:21 <kushal> dneary, Feel free to add action items to yourself here, that way others will learn about them easily while reading logs. 15:29:50 <dneary> kushal, How do I action item myself? Are we using meetbot? 15:30:13 <kushal> dneary, Yes. 15:30:14 <dneary> #action dneary to start a discussion on centos-devel about merging the NFV SIG with the Cloud SIG 15:30:23 <kushal> dneary, Thank you :) 15:30:45 <dneary> hashtag you're welcome 15:30:53 <dneary> :-) 15:31:48 <kushal> dneary, Is that all of the update? 15:31:55 <kushal> Anyone has any question for dneary ? 15:31:55 <dneary> Yup 15:32:07 <dneary> Like I said at the start, no progress because of the Christmas break 15:32:21 <kushal> dneary, :) 15:32:34 <kushal> Last point in the agenda 15:32:36 <kushal> * CentOS Dojo @ FOSDEM, with RDO track - https://www.rdoproject.org/events/rdo-day-fosdem-2016/ 15:32:49 <kushal> kbsingh, rbowen number80 all yours 15:32:52 <rbowen> Pretty much the bullet point says everything. 15:32:57 <rbowen> That's the schedule of talks. 15:32:57 <kbsingh> yeah 15:33:00 <number80> yup 15:33:04 <rbowen> We have "sold" all seats to the event. 15:33:09 <kbsingh> one thing we need to decide on is the food menu for lunch :) 15:33:12 <rbowen> We look forward to seeing all of you there. 15:33:16 <kushal> Someone please take some photos, so that we can add those in the blog posts. 15:33:24 <dneary> Can I also put in a promo for the SDN/NFV DevRoom at the conference, and the Cloud/Virt DevRoom? 15:33:30 <number80> sure 15:33:34 <dneary> #link https://fosdem.org/2016/schedule/track/sdn_and_nfv/ 15:33:35 <rbowen> I will take photos. I will also take video and audio, which will all be posted. 15:33:41 <avij> yes you are 15:33:48 <rbowen> Eliska is bringing a video camera, as am I. 15:34:06 <dneary> #link https://fosdem.org/2016/schedule/track/virtualisation_and_iaas/ 15:34:20 <dneary> The schedule for the SDN/NFV DevRoom is pretty awesome, I think 15:34:55 <dneary> And there's a lot of overlap with the Cloud SIG in the Virt & IaaS DevRoom 15:35:13 <kushal> rbowen, yay :) 15:36:33 <number80> sure, full of prospective contributors there too :) 15:36:44 <kushal> We can move to Open Floor then :) 15:37:01 <kushal> kbsingh, can we get the meetbot to change the channel topic also with the #topic command? 15:37:11 <kbsingh> kushal: dunno 15:37:24 <kbsingh> I have no idea what meetbot is 15:37:45 <kushal> kbsingh, the centbot, who manages it? 15:38:14 <bstinson> iirc that would require centbot to have ops 15:39:02 <kushal> bstinson, if that is not a problem :) 15:39:37 <kushal> We can close the meeting now. 15:39:39 <kushal> Okay? 15:39:46 <kbsingh> +1 15:39:54 <rbowen> Thanks, folks. 15:40:02 <kushal> 5 15:40:03 <kushal> 4 15:40:04 <kushal> 3 15:40:05 <kushal> 2 15:40:06 <kushal> 1 15:40:10 <kushal> #endmeeting