16:00:16 <davide> #startmeeting Hyperscale SIG 16:00:16 <centbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 8 16:00:16 2022 UTC. The chair is davide. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:16 <centbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:39 <davide> uh... is the bot working? 16:00:41 <davide> ah here we go 16:00:54 <davide> #chair dcavalca jvreeland 16:00:54 <centbot> Current chairs: davide dcavalca jvreeland 16:00:59 <davide> morning folks 16:01:03 <aekoroglu> morning 16:01:05 <jvreeland> morning 16:01:16 <oidoming> morning 16:03:21 <davide> let's get started 16:03:26 <davide> #topic Followups 16:03:48 <davide> anything from the last meeting we should cover? 16:03:55 * davide is trying to find the minutes 16:05:52 <davide> ah found it: https://centbot.centos.org/minutes/2022/May/centos-meeting.2022-05-25-16.00.html 16:06:23 <davide> aekoroglu: looks like you had an action to write up the SIG chair election process 16:06:44 <michel> Hello 16:07:13 <djohansen> Good morning 16:07:59 <aekoroglu> it seems ok but what do you think ? its good to use rcv bytheway 16:08:22 <aekoroglu> https://pagure.io/centos-sig-hyperscale/sig/issue/112 16:08:36 <davide> yeah that lgtm 16:09:14 <davide> do we want to allow for private nominations? I don't personally care much, but it's something I've seen discussed in other context 16:09:24 <davide> as folks might be shy to publicly nominate themselves 16:10:26 <davdunc[m> they might, but I want them to overcome the urge to do thinigs in secret. 16:10:44 <davide> yeah that's fair 16:10:47 <aekoroglu> +1 16:11:05 <jvreeland> +1 16:11:34 <davide> I'm +1 as well for clarity 16:11:44 <davdunc[m> I would rather encourage self-nomination 16:12:13 <davide> also, who actually runs the election? we don't have a secretary role at the moment 16:12:28 <davide> I'm fine doing it, but this may also be worth formalizing at some point 16:12:45 <davide> also to avoid (the appearance of) conflicts of interest and stuff 16:12:52 <aekoroglu> in Fedora its like "Nominees are requested to answer the selected questions using a private issue in Pagure." 16:13:01 <davdunc[m> makes sense to formalize it...... 16:13:37 <davdunc[m> it being the secretary role. 16:14:01 <davide> should we do a vote for the secretary first, and then have them run the vote for the open chair? 16:14:31 <davide> I don't want to add too much process as this is a pretty small group, but otoh it's good to have very clear policies around this stuff 16:15:10 <michel> Do we have examples of fedora SIGs or WGs with secretaries? 16:15:27 <michel> So we don't reinvent the wheel 16:15:27 <michel> Trying to remember if Workstation has one 16:15:44 <davide> to be clear, secretary == the person that makes the ballot and tablulates results in this context 16:16:00 <davdunc[m> that's the PM in every case for Fedora elections, no? 16:16:11 <davide> in the general sense, a secretary would also run meetings, ensure minutes exist, etc, but I don't think we necessarily need to formalize that for this group 16:16:23 <davide> unless someone wants to do it of course 16:16:39 <michel> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/workstation-working-group/governance/ 16:17:24 <michel> We can also just nominate someone to run this on a case by case basis 16:17:48 <davdunc[m> that sounds like a great way to do it. Michel Alexandre Salim 16:18:15 <davide> yeah, I'm ok with that; wanna write it up in the issue for the record? 16:19:19 <davide> I'm happy to do it for this round (as I wouldn't be on the ballot anyway) 16:20:09 <davdunc[m> Davide Cavalca: that question was open ended on who should write it up? 16:20:33 <davide> oh I meant Michel Alexandre Salim as he was the one that proposed it, but it can be a group effort 16:20:53 <davdunc[m> got it. 16:21:16 <davide> I mostly just want this formalized so we don't need to spend time on it again the next time a seat is open 16:21:42 <davide> and also to hopefully help other SIGs that might have similar issues 16:22:09 <davide> so, to recap 16:22:30 <davide> we'll hold an election to fill the chair seat vacated by jvreeland 16:23:04 <davide> we'll have nominations 8-15, voting 15-22 16:23:13 <davide> I'll act as secretary for this election 16:23:40 <davide> any comments / objections / etc on this plan? 16:25:31 <michel> I can write this up but this might trip over aekoroglu: 16:25:39 <aekoroglu> its good and I could help if needed 16:25:42 <davdunc[m> I think it's a good plan. 16:27:08 <davide> #agreed chair election nominations 8-15, voting 15-22, dcavalca will act as secretary, https://pagure.io/centos-sig-hyperscale/sig/issue/112 for details 16:27:13 <davide> thanks folks 16:27:21 <davide> anything else for followups? 16:28:45 <davide> #topic Announcements 16:29:06 <davide> I've built and tagged a new kpatch version yesterday 16:29:28 <davide> also, there's a centos board meeting this afternoon if folks are interested 16:29:44 <davdunc[m> good to know on both accounts. 16:30:27 <chantra> I have had some feedback on RPM CoW implementation from Panu. https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/discussions/2057 I still have to parse and think through it, but at least there is motion and hint in which direction this could take. 16:30:55 <davide> we're also getting an updated Pagure for git.centos.org 16:31:06 <davide> which means we should soon be able to have a working PR workflow for code review 16:31:14 <davide> that should make it easier for folks to collaborate and contribute 16:31:15 <chantra> \o/ 16:31:33 <arrfab> well, it need "some love" as we need to grant group commit access but doable 16:31:46 <davide> baby steps :) 16:31:49 <arrfab> have already an idea about how to do that at the centos side, without an infra ticket 16:32:13 <arrfab> basically a git repo with PR and once merged a script would call pagure api to reflect changes 16:32:16 <davide> happy to help test stuff out if needed, just let us know 16:32:24 <arrfab> so like creating new project and granting commits rights 16:32:34 <arrfab> yeah, but multiple moving pieces in the infra 16:32:53 <arrfab> initially I was hoping that the new "collaborator" feature in pagure 5.13 was working but no 16:33:23 <davide> that's too bad, is there something we should report to pagure upstream? 16:33:35 <arrfab> davide: already ticket open for this ;-) 16:33:49 <davide> ah perfect 16:34:02 <arrfab> but when it will be available we can give it a quick test and then update without waiting for RH EXD team to validate, as it will be minor update on same RHEL version 16:34:39 <davide> sounds good, thanks arrfab 16:35:00 <davide> anything else for announcements? 16:35:42 <arrfab> davide: there will be some changes for centos ci infra too, but all that will be explained also next week at centos dojo ;-) 16:36:09 <davide> good to know, looking forward to the Dojo 16:36:25 <davide> I should probably write my Dojo talk too :) 16:36:40 <aekoroglu> :) 16:37:17 <davide> alright, let's move to 16:37:20 <davide> #topic Tickets 16:39:00 <davide> I've just filed https://pagure.io/centos-sig-hyperscale/sig/issue/115 to get the missing minutes added to the page 16:39:14 <davide> we already talked about the election stuff 16:39:19 <davide> anything else here that we should discuss? 16:40:43 <Eighth_Doctor> oh hai 16:40:49 <Eighth_Doctor> I forgot about this until just now 16:41:01 <Eighth_Doctor> my talk for devconf.us has been accepted 16:41:09 <davide> excellent 16:41:11 <Eighth_Doctor> so that means if we have a dojo for devconf.us, we should do something there 16:41:13 <aekoroglu> perfect 16:41:36 <davide> I believe the plan is to have a Dojo, but I don't think it's been formally announced yet 16:42:04 <Eighth_Doctor> I 16:42:04 <Eighth_Doctor> we should talk to shaun about getting one set up for devconf.us then 16:42:10 <davide> yeah, I'll followup with him 16:42:36 <Eighth_Doctor> excellent 16:42:36 <davide> iirc there was also some discussion of doing an in-person board meeting at the same event, but I haven't caught up on this yet 16:42:57 <Eighth_Doctor> F2F board meeting would be a good idea 16:43:05 <Eighth_Doctor> the one I had prior to oSC for the openSUSE Board was really fruitful 16:43:19 <Eighth_Doctor> I imagine it might be helpful for the CentOS board to do something similar 16:43:40 <davide> happy to try and organize a hackfest of something for Hyperscale if there's interest 16:44:16 <davide> either leveraging the conference venue, or some space nearby 16:44:26 <Eighth_Doctor> that would be great actually 16:44:41 <Eighth_Doctor> we haven't done one ever and I think it'd be fun to do one 16:44:46 <davide> yeah, agreed 16:46:14 <davide> #topic Membership 16:46:24 <davide> I don't think we had anything for this 16:46:35 <davide> #topic Misc 16:47:14 <davide> one last thing I wanted to bring up: I'm starting to provision some test resources internally on IBM Cloud for ppc64le and s390x, and have noticed we don't have CentOS Stream images published there 16:47:48 <davide> I can make custom images, but if anybody's interested in trying to have real ones lemme know, happy to join forces 16:48:28 <davide> and down the road it's obviously be nice to also have Hyperscale cloud images there, once we start publishing those 16:50:19 <davide> anything else for the last 10 minutes? 16:50:45 <aekoroglu> I'll add simdjson into Fedora/EPEL but I think facebook+twitter might be interesting with that too I'm think will be good to have simdjson in hyperscale ? 16:50:52 <aekoroglu> https://simdjson.org/ 16:51:18 <davide> aekoroglu: if it's going to be in EPEL, it'll be available for Hyperscale already, as we depend on EPEL 16:52:00 <davide> didn't know about this library, looks useful 16:52:51 <aekoroglu> new avx-512 support boosts performance between 25% to 40% 16:53:34 <davide> nice 16:54:47 <michel> oh, IBM Cloud has s390x? nice 16:55:16 <davide> yeah, on VPC (though I haven't managed to get one to provision successfully yet) 16:59:58 <davide> I think that's all for this week 17:00:14 <davide> thanks for joining folks, enjoy the rest of your day 17:00:19 <davide> #endmeeting